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SPIN METER: 'War and Peace' in 209 pages?

Intrepid
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133 posts
Nov 24, 2009
8:13 PM
Nov 24, 7:45 PM (ET)

By CALVIN WOODWARD and DOUGLASS K. DANIEL
WASHINGTON (AP) - Republicans are using everything short of forklifts to show Americans that Democratic health care legislation is an unwieldy mountain of paper. They pile it high on desks, hoist it on a shoulder trussed in sturdy rope and tell people it's longer than "War and Peace," which it isn't.

Although they complain they don't have time to read all of it, they found the time to tape it together, page by page, so they could roll it up the steps of the Capitol like super-sized toilet paper and show how very long it is.

Size matters in the health care debate because Republicans have turned the length of the legislation into a symbol: Big, unwieldy bill means big, overreaching government.

Even bigger when you display double-spaced copies with double-wide margins and large print - then pile copies of the House and Senate bills together so that the cameras see something monstrously tall.

Lawmakers routinely debate massive legislation without absorbing every word. They employ people to find what matters to them.

Indeed, legislation of comparable size was used to redefine an area of much more limited federal responsibility, education. That was the No Child Left Behind Act from the agenda of Republican President George W. Bush.

The nation's health care system accounts for one-sixth of the economy and no one really expects brevity when reinventing something so complex.

No one really expects the Republicans' theatrical legislation inflation to stop, either.

Five Republican senators displayed the massive legislation on their desks during the weekend vote to bring the Senate health bill to full debate, as GOP lawmakers have been doing since the House bill came out earlier.

As if he risked a hernia carrying it any other way, Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa was seen carrying the House Democratic bill on his shoulder, all roped together. GOP Rep. John Culberson of Texas brought a copy to a Capitol Hill rally and threw its loose pages to the crowd, like meat to lions.

The actual Senate bill, which Majority Leader Harry Reid introduced last week, came in at 2,074 double-spaced pages, 84 more pages than the House version, which was already being ridiculed for its size.

"That's larger than the novel 'War and Peace,'" Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah said of the Senate bill.

"Exceeding even 'War and Peace' in length," Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said of the House bill.
Said Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas: "'War and Peace' - some people consider it the greatest book ever written, but most people recognize the novel because at 1,284 pages its length is often the butt of jokes. Now imagine trying to read something that long overnight."

Actually, Leo Tolstoy's tome is longer than either bill. Full translated versions are nearly twice as long.

The bill passed by the House is 319,145 words. The Senate bill is 318,512 words, shorter than the House version despite consuming more paper. Various versions of Tolstoy's novel are 560,000 to 670,000 words. Bush's education act tallied more than 280,000 words.

By now, the full draft of Reid's bill that had circulated in the corridors and landed so prominently on Republican desks has been published in the Congressional Record in the official and conventional manner.

The type is small and tight. No hernias will be caused by moving this rendering of the bill around. Unfurling it on the Capitol steps would not be much of a spectacle.

It's 209 pages.

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I'm not putting this up as a slam on Republicans. The tactic of saying anything dramatic, though not necessarily true, is common in politics. Hillary Clinton's campaign reflected the same thing. Her Bosnia canard was no different.

How many even moderately successful politicians value integrity? I can only think of a few. Former Senator Paul Simon (D-IL), Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) and Jimmy Carter are a few that come to mind.

I guess it's more of an observation that voters are so easily manipulated by things like this.

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INSPOGD
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Nov 25, 2009
10:31 AM
Think the main thing, as with all legislation that is introduced, is if they would leave out all the pork that each feel they must add. While I agree that changes are definitely needed in the health care system, I really can't see the government doing a good job of running anything. And sometimes the old saying "survival of the fittest" should come into play. Not as far as the old folks (like me) are concerned, but the ones who have lived off the government all their lives, as well as all their ancestors as well as offsprings. And the bill being introduced in my opinion isn't really helping that many to cost so much. But, if they would take away the free health care for those who have never contributed anything to society and pay for it out of that to help the middle class working man that can't get affordable coverage, I'd be all for it. Also, if congress would subject themselves to the same plans and rules that we will have to go by, then by all means, but think that would change in just a few trips to the ER. I'm a perfect example of mismanagement of the health care system. I have insurance, best the state can get. In '05 when I had hip replaced, my insurance company had to pay out over $40,000 to TJ Sampson Hospital. As soon as they found out that I qualified for medicare (only because I'd been disabled for 2 years, and I had turned down medicare, thinking my insurance would cover me the rest of my life) the government stepped in and paid my bill instead, with TJ refunding the money to the insurance company. I even called medicare trying to get it reversed, but they wouldn't hear of it, saying that they had no problem with paying for it. And of course the same thing happened in '07 with the other hip, with the tax payers money paying for it and letting my insurance company get that much richer. So, the state pays over $400 a month insurance on me, (part of the working for over 20 years for the state that my insurance is paid for the rest of my life) only to have the government over ride the insurance companies to pick up the bill.